A Nissan Leaf goes 0-60 in around 6 seconds which is just a tiny bit slower than my 5.6 liter hemi Dodge Charger R/T, why aren't they telling everyone that?

A Mustang is barely sub-6 seconds. You could beat one off the line in your Leaf and absolutely win a 1/4 mile

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Advertise the Nissan Leaf as a high performance car and you will sell so many more

Are tuners into these? I feel like the style is right up their alley. Not sure how hard they are to fuck around with though

Just imagine you're at a stop light next to a mustang and you roll down the window and challenge the other driver (you can't just rev your engine, obvs) and then you just fucking blow their doors off in your Nissan Leaf

The 2021 Mini Cooper Electric 0-60 in sub 7 seconds. You can definitely mod that down below 5 IMO

There's the Kia Nero which, despite better performance is so clearly a badge engineered Hyundai Kona. They didn't even try

Anyway, that Kia SUV does a standing 1/4 mile in under 15 seconds.

@breakfastgolem upgrade the batteries and whatnot you'll get a lot more power

@Thomas I think it's more about higher voltage/amperage to the motor(s) and how those are distributed (single driving all wheels, two for each set of wheels, one for each wheel etc). People are doing Tesla powertrain swaps now and there are pre-fab electric kits that you can get, too. I imagine that'd work for a Leaf.

@breakfastgolem @Thomas honestly most EVs could probably be cranked up in software. A “better than necessary” motor controller has higher efficiency so I’m guessing the bolt and leaf have a good bit of headroom. Big drawback is in range, but that shouldn’t be a surprise. Maybe battery overheating in hot climates.

@Timmy @breakfastgolem yeah but if you’re tuning for speed range isn’t an issue I reckon. Guess it depends on how much you drop it

@Thomas @breakfastgolem Yeah there’s also max battery discharge rates to worry about, but that probably isn’t an issue if you’ve got a car with substantial range on today’s battery tech. And the range hit is only when you really push it anyway.

I think GM didn’t want people to think the bolt was fast, since they say the 0-60 is <7 and they limited the top speed to only 91mph. It has 200 hp so I’d expect it can go much faster if you don’t mind losing range

@Thomas @breakfastgolem unfortunately if you want to go all out, you probably need to upgrade the battery, controller and motor together. That’s pretty much cost prohibitive. If I wanted to make a sporty electric car I’d probably start with an old air cooled VW

@Timmy @breakfastgolem conversion kits might be more viable maybe, but people that tune cars are willing to put money in so who knows. I mentioned the White Zombie earlier that’s a good example of someone going all out on electric

@alex @Timmy @breakfastgolem I considered an EV conversion for my 68 Mustang but it was like 5 racks. Realistically that’s not much more than I’d need to get it up and running now

@Thomas @alex @breakfastgolem yeah you can do ev conversions for cheap if you want a really bad car, but the battery packs are pretty expensive if you want any reasonable amount of performance or range

@Timmy @alex @breakfastgolem I mean, mine is a coupe with a 200 straight 6. It’s always been a cruising car. If I could get 100 miles on a charge I would be thrilled. Speed and acceleration would just be a bonus

@Thomas @alex @breakfastgolem so the batteries limit what you can do in all 3 dimensions, that’s why all of these economy EVs are so sporty. If you overdraw on cells they get angry so you need a big enough pack to push it and by the time you’ve got that your momentary performance is quite good

@Thomas @alex @breakfastgolem lithium ion packs are expensive even if you build them yourself. Cheap ev conversions have to use lead acids so they end up being basically golf carts. Cells are $1-3 per and you need quite a lot. I’d have about $3-5k just in cells to build a battery for something as large as a car. That’s bulk pricing from a wholesaler overseas. Could probably turn into a pretty cool electric car for about $8000, but that’s gonna be pretty extremely diy.

@Thomas @breakfastgolem i mean the average hot hatch is 5-6 seconds to 60 from the factory and they make a big song and dance about it. the leaf just goes whüsh

@Thomas To be fair, every Kia and Hyundai are badge engineered from each other. There's very few original models in either lineup. Only one that I can think of that comes to mind is the Kia Stinger.

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